The man claims to
be not interested.
( I will be interjecting my responses as we go along, hope it
doesn’t confuse you too much Kind like a red letter edition of the good book)
I was amazed to see
Bob Rivera's comments posted on David Israel's blog. I am not interested in
responding to his allegations about me as I don't think my personal affairs ar
any of his business.
However, I would like
to comment on his postings in general.
He went to great
lengths to find some issue that he could use to advantage in his campaign to
discredit me. Neil, discredit? Really?
He published the
details of a residence in Royal palm Beach registered in the same name I
possess. he apparently spent some effort in (just two minutes Neil, Not hard to do) searching
the databases for something, finding a house registered to my name is the
best he could do. Whether or not this home is owned by me is neither here
nor there. But the fact that he would go to those lengths and publish those two minutes for VERY PUBLIC ) details on David Israel's blog is a pretty
good indication of the underhanded tactics he and David Israel employ. (If you want to look up public records, you can
find them on PAPA, the actual information he refers to is this:
Further postings
suggest that I don't even bother paying rent. That is an unfounded and
scurrilous allegation. His belief that only property owners have a stake in the
village harks back to a period in American history when elections were
dominated by male landowners. Concepts that are antiquated, outdated and
overthrown long ago.
(My
response to this part)
The
suggestion that you do not pay rent must be in your mind. No where does it say
that you do not pay rent. In another posting it was mentioned that you may not
even rent in the village, but nothing even close to suggesting that you do not
pay rent. Above is a copy of the posting from David's blog...
"...antiquated,
outdated and overthrown long ago." yes, maybe, but we are not talking
about a State or a country, we are discussing CONDOS, where as a RENTER, you
have NO VOTING RIGHTS.
It is
a group property OWNERS, as many others groups that have guidelines from the
State of Florida. Not a Renter's association.
If
there had been as I once suggested, a delegate to represent renters, that would
be another story, but as I was shut down even from some of the so-called
"malcontents", that was never to be, why? "Because they do
not own and have no say in village matters". (That quote from one of your
friends, a former writer/editor for the Reporter and frequent write to Gary’s
blog.)
Does Mr. Rivera
believe that the same principle of exclusion should be practiced in federal and
State elections? One would have to think so in digesting his stated position on
the matter.
(My
response to this part)
This
paragraph is not applicable to the matters of Century Village. Once again, this
is not a state or country. The owners send a delegate to the assembly to
represent them. Even if they give to vote to every individual, renters will not
be included, why? They DO NOT HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INVESTMENT IN THE VILLAGE.
Each association is a business. As owners in
that business, they have a right to say whatever they need to, or want to say.
Renters pay
for the privilege of living here. But have no say in how things are run at this
time.
I don't think that I have to explain my reasons for renting a unit rather than
purchasing. Suffice to say that my time of the last few years has been divided
between relaxing in Florida and working in Canada, My last project in Canada
lasted for just over a year, during that time I continued to be involved in CV
matters as I have always been a proponent of civil rights, and fair treatment for
all. My conscience would never permit me to turn my back on the commitment I
made to my friends and neighbors in Century Village. whether i am here or
somewhere else.
Mr.Rivera and all
residents of the village can rest assured that I fully intend to continue my
efforts to bring truth to light in Century village no matter the slings and
arrows of the misguided.
Carry on McDuff!!
Neil J.Moore
I wholly agree with
Bob Rivera, who is Neil Moore living in Canada to write anything about what
goes on here in Century Village. I guess you need detractors Gary and you have
many!!!
1.
This rule should, to most of the writters for
the NYTimes as well as oter well know newspspers. They may not live in the area
of publishing but their opinion is still valued.
Tuesday, February 14, 2017
Sneaky business redone
What is it with the delegate haters? If Ed Grossman
tries to speak he gets boo,d. No matter what he says or does, he gets
boo,d.
This time he was reporting to the assembly a situation that he came across and attempted to fix it and he did. The outcome was the savings of considerable monies for each of the unit owners, So the delegates, at least the haters and the uninformed did not want to hear it, so the boos.
So that outcome was stupid. What was happening was that the UCO President had decided who he wanted to supply us with TV, Wifi and maybe telephone services, This was done to the exclusion of all other applicants.
David Israel did not invite any other bids.
That is until Ed Grossman spoke to Comcast. They were not aware that there was bidding going on. So they immediately contacted Israel and were given a chance to bid.
(Ed takes credit, Neil, his renter editor takes credit…in the meantime Ed gets called a liar to his face by the CSI guy…
This time he was reporting to the assembly a situation that he came across and attempted to fix it and he did. The outcome was the savings of considerable monies for each of the unit owners, So the delegates, at least the haters and the uninformed did not want to hear it, so the boos.
So that outcome was stupid. What was happening was that the UCO President had decided who he wanted to supply us with TV, Wifi and maybe telephone services, This was done to the exclusion of all other applicants.
David Israel did not invite any other bids.
That is until Ed Grossman spoke to Comcast. They were not aware that there was bidding going on. So they immediately contacted Israel and were given a chance to bid.
(Ed takes credit, Neil, his renter editor takes credit…in the meantime Ed gets called a liar to his face by the CSI guy…
The outcome was that Comcast has now become the favorite bidder. At least that seems to be the case for now,
What I do not understand, why no additional bidders? Why accept Atlantic and nobody else? Who gave Israel the right to decide on who bids and who does not. So, anyway it appears as if the bidding was opened up to include Comcast and now they are the favorite.
We will see how this finally comes down. Who is lying to the Delegates and why?
And here is another stupid thing. My blog is open. I accept anybody's post. Israel's blog is closed. You have to be registered to comment or post. The list of acceptable posters is small. I am not on it. All of the people that have the nerve to object to Israel's doings are banned. So it looks as if I am slandered on Israels private blog and I have no recourse to respond (except on the public blog. My Village Blogger). And I notice that the acceptable posters are limited in number and all in the Israel Camp.
Shameful.
13 comments:
1.
I was at the DA meeting
and did witness the shameful exchange between the parties involved. I also
responded to Neil's article and suggested whom ever ED spoke to at Comcast,
should once more be contacted to confirm the date & time of the conversation
that took place between himself & the Comcast representative....Then
present it..that will prove once & fore all who has their facts
straight...CSI rep was out of line, calling Ed a Liar.... (Hmmmm, was he?)
2.
A secret deal was signed
by David Israel giving CSI the nod to conduct negotiations for WIFI.CSI stands
to get almost a half million dollars for working this deal. It's a damned
disgrace. The only reason we are contemplating a new contract is because David
israel is determined to fulfill his ambitions of getting WIFI. The present
contract with comcast is effective till 2019. Why dones CV want to spend that
kind of money? Why was ATlantic Broadband named as the provider of choice? What
gives David Israel the authority to sign a contract of this magnitude without
delegate approval? Theres a lot of money at stake . Could that be the reason
for all this nonsense? The best option for the village would be to clear the
air by rejecting any proposal at this time, and starting afresh with a new
administration. There'a no rush to seal a cable TV deal right now.there's
something not right about this whole thing.
Reply (why
is everything you disagree with always decided bt a “SECRET MEETING”?
Paranoia
is a real issue, something that should you really should get checked out.
1.
No secret deal. You
should go to the Delegates meetings and you will learn a lot of information. It
has been discussed a lot and David Israel keeps the delegates informed. Gary
lies!!!!
2.
Hey Gracie, Go back and
review the delegate meetings, you will hear David Israel tell the delegates
that Comcast was not interested in bidding. If you had half a brain, you would
figure out that Comcast was not interested in bidding two years before their contract
expired.
David did not tell Comcast that he was planning to secure a contract with Atlantic Broadband, two years hence. If he told Comcast, you bet your ass, they would have bid. Want to know why he didn't - because he was anxious to get his freaking broadband installed pronto, before the delegates woke up and figured out what he was doing.
David did not tell Comcast that he was planning to secure a contract with Atlantic Broadband, two years hence. If he told Comcast, you bet your ass, they would have bid. Want to know why he didn't - because he was anxious to get his freaking broadband installed pronto, before the delegates woke up and figured out what he was doing.
3.
For your info Gary,
people are tired of Ed Grossman and his nonsense. Whatever is brought good or
bad by David Israel will tried to be derailed by the likes of Gross man and
Olga, your friends. If you all so hate the village why do you live here. We
live in a beautiful village with the Volunteers working VERY hard to make us
all happy. You know you can't make all the people happy all of the time and the
haters can't be made happy. You are a poor soul.
1.
Some people may be tired
of Ed Grossman, It's those who support Israel no matter what he does.
"Whatever is brought good or bad will try to be derailed" WRONG! If
you look carefully, you'll see that just the things that are being brought that
are objectionable are being derailed. Things like: signing a $450.000.00
contract without delegates approval. Handing over $800,000.00 to WPRF to fix
their building, when the owners should be fixing it, turning a blind eye to the
goings on at Sheffield O for years. Continuing a crusade for WIFI when the
residents said NO. TWICE. Firing able and motivated volunteers for no other
reason than they objected to his activities. Throttling the village media so
that they only espouse his party line. As for hating the village and why don't
some of the objectors go somewhere else. That's totally out of line. Obviously
they like it here, but will not stand back and say nothing when they see that
something is not right. Perhaps if Grace is tired of her neighbors, she should
go live somewhere else. It's sad to hear that Grace can't be made happy all the
time. She obviously hates Ed and Olga and whoever else makes an objection to
wrong-doing in the village.
4.
Mandala you can't read.
I asked if Ed and Olga and their like dislike the village so much why live
here. I have lovely neighbors where I live here in our lovely village. The
delegates are tired of listening to Ed and Olga. Go do a delegate's meeting and
see for yourself. Ed and Olga just undermine all that is good in the village.
5.
He (Neil Moore) doesn't
even own anything here, but Grossman made him editor of his newsletter. Nothing
comes out of his pocket but rent, and there are some doubts about that by some.
1.
Very unnecessary
comment, Bob. It doesn't make you look so bright. So what if Neil Moore is the
editor of the Messenger. John Doe can be editor too. Neil Moore has a lot of
constructive things to put in print. What does Israel have to say? He says
basically nothing. All he does is report the news. Bob, I was once your friend
and I'm advising you to stop searching for dirt.
2.
Why show making a true
statement be unnecessary? If he has no financial stake in the village, why
should you listen listen to him? He doesn't lose anything. If I recall Ms. Once
your friend, you were pretty vocal about another renter that worked at UCO and
the Reporter. I was not spying on my so-called friends. I did not send advance
copies of materials to be published to anyone. I was not asked to leave because
of questionable work ethics. Need I go on?
3.
Lighten up, Bob. You're
getting defensive. Your argument regarding Neil Moore is not valid. If you
don't like what he has to say, well, that's okay because you and others have
your own opinions. But, to argue that he has no business writing for a
newsletter that you don't happen to like, because he rents property here rather
than own, is getting personal, and it's like you can't find anything else to
say. Don't forget, you and I both know that a lot can be dug up about you and
your past and it may be personal. Let's not go there. There are a several
writers for the Palm Beach Post. Most of them don't even work for the paper.
I'm giving you good advice. Stop searching for dirt.
Reply
Oh what
do you think you are going to get? Now mind you, Make sure it is true, and not
the stupid little rumors you make up, because those may come back and bite you
in the butt… Please bring them on. By the way, I am not the one running for
office, you are. It’s not like I don’t know who you are. Also If I recall, you
were also one of the people wanting to get rid of the renter is the reporter
and UCO. Ineresting ….
6.
Bob Rivera constantly
attacks people and tries to throw dirt on their character, he does this when he
really has no good response to the issues or what his opponents are saying. his
statements are full of untruths and attempts to incite bigotry. He posted some
info about a homeowner in Royal Palm beach, obviously knowing nothing about the
man or whether or not it is the same person he was trying to defame. As for why
he was asked to leave the reporter. I hear that it was because he was unhappy
that the paper wouldn't publish an offensive cartoon he drew up, depicting a
dog and a bunch of fecal matter. Not only that the people in the office were
getting fed up with his so called therapy dog following him everywhere.
Reply There
goes that word…the word of a true Democrat. Bigotry. You tend to forget that it
was the DEMOCRATS that voted to KEEP slavery, that voted to keep the black man
from voting, no don’t call me a bigot. Inciting bigotry belong to people like
Al Sharpton, and the black lives movement. But let me not get into the dirty
politicsof either party, this is a LOCAL matter, a local issue, trying to
incite matters like that should be left for the big dogs, not a pup.
As
far as the man and address that bears your name or one similar, matter of
Public record. Heck Neil, I know you’ve looked up mine by now…let me know if
you need help with that.
7.
what part of NO
FINANCIAL STAKE in the village don't you quite get? It's easy to bark at a
problem when you have no intention or means to be part of the solution. If you
don't have a stake in the village, you can just get up and walk away. As a
renter, you pay for the privilege of using the facilities. You have no say in
what the OWNER can or can't spend money on. That is for the owners or their
representatives (who are also owners) do. Did I hit a nerve ? Sounds like you
are the one being defensive.
I just read tonight that all volunteers must be owners that are members of UCO. Interesting. Oh yeah, be sure to catch my response to Neil in my blog. It will be published very soon.
I just read tonight that all volunteers must be owners that are members of UCO. Interesting. Oh yeah, be sure to catch my response to Neil in my blog. It will be published very soon.
Wednesday,
February 8, 2017
Cease and
Desist ??
I think a question needs to be brought up... Why is Ed Grossman, a
delegate and NOT an officer or committee member (that I am aware of) calling
anyone and trying to negotiate ANYTHING for the village? HE IS NOT AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL and therefore has absolutely no authority to call anyone and try to
negotiate anything. He should be reprimanded for doing so.
It is the job of the ELECTED officials of the United Civic Organization of Century Village. The reason for UCO existing is to negotiate the best possible contracts for the village. THAT is the function and purpose of UCO.
It is the job of the ELECTED officials of the United Civic Organization of Century Village. The reason for UCO existing is to negotiate the best possible contracts for the village. THAT is the function and purpose of UCO.
5 comments:
Hi Bob,
Let me assure you that no action taken by Mr. Grossman, or Mr. Moore have had any effect on our negotiations, except to confuse issues.
The Principals are well aware of the Malcontent component!
Dave Israel
Let me assure you that no action taken by Mr. Grossman, or Mr. Moore have had any effect on our negotiations, except to confuse issues.
The Principals are well aware of the Malcontent component!
Dave Israel
Excellent
question and response!
Hi Bob,
I am with you and many others in believing it could have been damaging to insert oneself in the middle of serious Village negotiations with the Cable Committee, CSI and the telecommunications companies as "The Messenger" folk did, but I would like to clarify a point: On the "My Village Blogger" Neil Moore says that he, NOT Ed Grossman, was the one who contacted someone at Comcast, plus he says no actual NEGOTIATIONS took place.
I am with you and many others in believing it could have been damaging to insert oneself in the middle of serious Village negotiations with the Cable Committee, CSI and the telecommunications companies as "The Messenger" folk did, but I would like to clarify a point: On the "My Village Blogger" Neil Moore says that he, NOT Ed Grossman, was the one who contacted someone at Comcast, plus he says no actual NEGOTIATIONS took place.
So,
according to Moore, the gentleman from CSI was correct in calling Grossman a
liar? And once again, I have to ask, why is someone that is not an owner in the
village and has nothing invested in the village and may not possibly even live
in the village talking to Comcast trying to represent the village? Is he
nothing but a professional agitator? Could be.
Hi Bob,
I am
with you and many others in believing it could have been damaging to insert
oneself in the middle of serious Village negotiations with the Cable Committee,
CSI and the telecommunications companies as "The Messenger" folk did,
but I would like to clarify a point: On the "My Village Blogger" Neil
Moore says that he, NOT Ed Grossman, was the one who contacted someone at
Comcast, plus he says no actual NEGOTIATIONS took place.
2.
So,
according to Moore, the gentleman from CSI was correct in calling Grossman a
liar? And once again, I have to ask, why is someone that is not an owner in the
village and has nothing invested in the village and may not possibly even live
in the village talking to Comcast trying to represent the village? Is he
nothing but a professional agitator? Could be.
To end
this, let’s just say, Neil, whether a renter or an outsider, has no stake in
the village, yes neil, it is THE OWNERS that have a say in what goes on in this
village. They and their representatives in the delegate assembly.
Location Address 9629 SPRAY DR
Municipality UNINCORPORATED
Parcel Control Number 00-42-43-30-08-000-0150
Subdivision BREAKERS WEST PL 9
Official Records Book
27596 Page 1630
Sale Date MAY-2015
Legal Description BREAKERS WEST PL 9 LT 15
View Map
2016 Proposed Tax Notice
Owner Information
Owners
MOORE NEIL J
Mailing address
9629 SPRAY DR
ROYAL PALM BEACH FL 33411 1861
Sales Information
Sales Date Price OR Book/Page Sale Type Owner
MAY-2015 $520,000 27596 / 01630 WARRANTY DEED MOORE NEIL J
If this is him, then why is he even bothering with the poor people of Century Village? Things that make you go HMMMMMMMM....)